(This is part 4 of a multi-part series on How to Tweak a Low Carb Diet. It discusses my weight loss journey so far. If you didn’t read part 1, you can do so by clicking on the how-to link. Part 1 also includes links to the rest of the series.)
I took a quick glance at the archives to see if I could discover exactly when I first started doing the Kimkins Diet back in 2007, but I kept it quiet due to the controversy surrounding that plan.
I can remember communicating with Jimmy Moore several times back then, as he was doing the Kimkins Diet himself, but I couldn’t find anything I had actually posted to this blog.
People were very emphatic back then that you had to eat a certain amount of dietary fat. You had to eat a ton of protein, and you had to get a certain amount of calories, or you were not doing low carb.
I can remember communicating with Jimmy Moore several times back then, as he was doing the Kimkins Diet himself, but I couldn’t find anything I had actually posted to this blog.
People were very emphatic back then that you had to eat a certain amount of dietary fat. You had to eat a ton of protein, and you had to get a certain amount of calories, or you were not doing low carb.
Because of these self-made dietary restrictions, these same individuals refused to call Kimkins a low-carb diet. They insisted it was a glucose-burning diet, even though it limited you to 20 full carbohydrates per day.
Their reasoning was if you were not using dietary fats for fuel, then the body was converting most of the protein you were eating into glucose, so you were not in ketosis.
You were simply doing a very low-calorie diet.
Their reasoning was if you were not using dietary fats for fuel, then the body was converting most of the protein you were eating into glucose, so you were not in ketosis.
You were simply doing a very low-calorie diet.
This was not true, but no one wanted to discuss the fact that the ketone strips were turning purple for those on Kimkins.
And no one wanted to discuss the possibility that eating less fat caused you to use more stored body fat for fuel than a typical low-carb diet did. (This is how the real Keto Diet works today.)
Now, please keep in mind that I am not advocating that you run out and join the Kimkins website, and I am not even suggesting that the Kimkins Diet (as written back then) was healthy because it was very low in calories.
And no one wanted to discuss the possibility that eating less fat caused you to use more stored body fat for fuel than a typical low-carb diet did. (This is how the real Keto Diet works today.)
Disclaimer:
Now, please keep in mind that I am not advocating that you run out and join the Kimkins website, and I am not even suggesting that the Kimkins Diet (as written back then) was healthy because it was very low in calories.
In fact, when you compare what Kimmer was suggesting a dieter eat back then with the current HCG Diet plan, they are very similar except that most HCG diets severely limit the type of vegetables you can eat.
Plus, the original HCG protocol designed by A.T.W. Simeons includes higher carb fruits, such as apples and oranges, and even melba toast.
Plus, the original HCG protocol designed by A.T.W. Simeons includes higher carb fruits, such as apples and oranges, and even melba toast.
Some of the principles Kimmer was discussing and advocating somewhere around the middle of 2007 helped me to design my own low-fat, low-carb diet that worked for me.
When I started the Kimkins Diet, I still weighed more than 200 pounds on my large 5-foot frame. I’m guessing it was somewhere around 215 pounds or so, maybe a little more than that, because I weighed about 190 pounds when I first looked into Lyle McDonald’s Rapid Fat Loss Plan.
That means I had lost about 40 pounds following a typical low-carb diet before hitting a brick wall.
That means I had lost about 40 pounds following a typical low-carb diet before hitting a brick wall.
My Experience with Kimmer's Experiment
Kimmer’s Experiment was rough going mentally.
It was the first time I had ever tried a zero-carb diet.
I ate chicken breast for breakfast and lunch, hard-boiled eggs with a little bit of mayonnaise and sugar substitute mixed into the mustard for a snack, pork chops or a bunless burger with a couple of eggs fried in a non-stick pan for dinner.
I also ate sugar-free jello later on in the evening.
By the end of the week, I was literally craving vegetables. It was the oddest thing I had ever experienced.
Before that time, I didn’t think too much of salad and vegetables; I saw them only as a necessary part of the diet. Since I couldn’t eat the bread and potatoes I was used to, vegetables were the only way I could fill my plate on a low-carb diet.
But my experience with Kimmer’s Experiment changed the way that salad and vegetables tasted to me. For the first time in my life, they actually tasted good.
Before that time, I didn’t think too much of salad and vegetables; I saw them only as a necessary part of the diet. Since I couldn’t eat the bread and potatoes I was used to, vegetables were the only way I could fill my plate on a low-carb diet.
But my experience with Kimmer’s Experiment changed the way that salad and vegetables tasted to me. For the first time in my life, they actually tasted good.
My Experience with the Kimkins Diet
The downside to the Kimkins Diet for me was that full-fat salad dressings were not allowed.
Since the diet was a low-fat diet, salad dressing sprays were encouraged, so that’s what I used on my salad. I didn’t like the sprays, but they were better than fat-free salad dressing, so in real life, I ate very little salad.
I ate mostly steamed vegetables, such as a cauliflower-broccoli-and-carrot mix, with plenty of salt and a dab of butter because they were easier to tolerate than dry salad.
Once I moved into the general Kimkins Diet, I also started recording everything I ate at Fitday. This gave me a way to track my progress, keep on top of potential problems, and pay attention to the way individual foods affected my weight loss.
It also allowed me to zero in on the best macros for me.
It also allowed me to zero in on the best macros for me.
Basically, my diet consisted of very lean meats: chicken or turkey breast, tuna, very lean pork loin chops, extra-lean ground beef, and sometimes top sirloin steak or ground turkey.
I ate eggs and vegetables.
I also made protein shakes with one or two scoops of whey protein, diet soda for the liquid, a quarter of a cup of non-fat cottage cheese to make them creamy, and four to six ice cubes.
For chocolate shakes, I allowed myself a tablespoon of cocoa powder. For strawberry, a couple of whole frozen strawberries I had tucked away in the freezer.
Sometimes, I used a quarter of a cup of blueberries, but only occasionally, and not until weight loss was well underway.
I ate eggs and vegetables.
I also made protein shakes with one or two scoops of whey protein, diet soda for the liquid, a quarter of a cup of non-fat cottage cheese to make them creamy, and four to six ice cubes.
For chocolate shakes, I allowed myself a tablespoon of cocoa powder. For strawberry, a couple of whole frozen strawberries I had tucked away in the freezer.
Sometimes, I used a quarter of a cup of blueberries, but only occasionally, and not until weight loss was well underway.
I ate a small amount of dietary fats, mostly mayonnaise in my tuna salad or a teaspoon of butter on top of my vegetables.
The eggs were either hard-boiled or scrambled in a non-stick pan with about a half a cup of leftover vegetables from dinner the previous evening.
I ate sugar-free gelatin, egg drop soup, and chicken and vegetable soup.
But, mostly, I kept my meals plain and simple. Chicken breast and steamed vegetables worked the best, so I ate that most often, even for breakfast when I didn't have hard boiled eggs handy.
The eggs were either hard-boiled or scrambled in a non-stick pan with about a half a cup of leftover vegetables from dinner the previous evening.
I ate sugar-free gelatin, egg drop soup, and chicken and vegetable soup.
But, mostly, I kept my meals plain and simple. Chicken breast and steamed vegetables worked the best, so I ate that most often, even for breakfast when I didn't have hard boiled eggs handy.
Although Kimmers’ Boot Camp Menu suggested you stick to only 500 calories per day and consume less than 30 grams of fat for accelerated weight loss, I couldn't lose weight that way, so I ate between 800 and 900 calories per day and kept my fat grams to somewhere in the area of 45 to 60 grams.
The original, regular Kimkins Diet did not restrict calories.
It did not restrict dietary fats.
It did restrict total carbohydrates to 20 grams per day, or less, and insisted you eat a minimum of 72 to 90 grams of protein per day to prevent muscle loss.
The dietary recommendation for fats was to eat only as much fat as necessary to make the diet work. The idea was that the fewer fats and calories you eat, the more fat storage the body would have to access to fuel your daily activities.
These are the guidelines I followed.
It did not restrict dietary fats.
It did restrict total carbohydrates to 20 grams per day, or less, and insisted you eat a minimum of 72 to 90 grams of protein per day to prevent muscle loss.
The dietary recommendation for fats was to eat only as much fat as necessary to make the diet work. The idea was that the fewer fats and calories you eat, the more fat storage the body would have to access to fuel your daily activities.
These are the guidelines I followed.
Now, keep in mind that I am only five feet tall.
I do have a large bone structure, but I personally need a diet that drastically cuts calories and dietary fats much lower than maintenance levels.
For someone else, the figures might be different (you might need more calories or fats than I do) but for me the bottom line is that calories and fats must be dialed in to a level that will allow you to lose weight at an acceptable rate of loss.
I do have a large bone structure, but I personally need a diet that drastically cuts calories and dietary fats much lower than maintenance levels.
For someone else, the figures might be different (you might need more calories or fats than I do) but for me the bottom line is that calories and fats must be dialed in to a level that will allow you to lose weight at an acceptable rate of loss.
A typical low-carb diet is too high in dietary fat and way too high in calories for most individuals.
In two months time, I lost 45 pounds eating this way.
I regret that I stopped following the program.
I regret that I listened to the low-carb advocates who were running around using scare tactics against me and many others who were following this diet – because, for the first time in my life, my body was actually healing.
My Regrets and Personal Limitations
I regret that I stopped following the program.
I regret that I listened to the low-carb advocates who were running around using scare tactics against me and many others who were following this diet – because, for the first time in my life, my body was actually healing.
Today, I realize that healing came from not eating gluten, dairy, or corn. There was nothing magical about Kimkins.
But even with my physical limitations today, I have still found -- through trial and error -- that to lose any significant amount of weight, I have to drastically cut my dietary fats and calories to a lower level than others do.
But that’s just me.
But even with my physical limitations today, I have still found -- through trial and error -- that to lose any significant amount of weight, I have to drastically cut my dietary fats and calories to a lower level than others do.
But that’s just me.
Part of my problem is vertigo. I'm very limited regarding activity.
This is why a weight-loss diet needs to be tweaked and individualized to fit your lifestyle as well as any health problems and food sensitivities you have.
I am extremely inactive due to the dizzy attacks that occur whenever the weather is bad or when I accidentally get glutened, dairyed, or corned.
I also have a balance problem, which limits the amount of activity I can do.
This is why a weight-loss diet needs to be tweaked and individualized to fit your lifestyle as well as any health problems and food sensitivities you have.
I am extremely inactive due to the dizzy attacks that occur whenever the weather is bad or when I accidentally get glutened, dairyed, or corned.
I also have a balance problem, which limits the amount of activity I can do.
My calorie needs are, therefore, not as high as yours might be.
For me, a maintenance level of calories is about 12 calories per pound of body weight. At my current weight of around 165 pounds, that works out to be about 2,000 calories. In comparison, the average person can eat around 15 calories per pound for maintenance.
For me, a maintenance level of calories is about 12 calories per pound of body weight. At my current weight of around 165 pounds, that works out to be about 2,000 calories. In comparison, the average person can eat around 15 calories per pound for maintenance.
Kimkins Cautions
A small handful of low-carb dieters experienced health issues around the time that Kimmer’s deception was discovered due to the way they chose to tweak the diet.
They were following the Boot Camp program, which was way more restrictive than what I was doing, and listening to dietary suggestions that advised them to cut their calories even further.
Many of these individuals were only eating 300 calories per day, or less, because Kimmer told them to.
I personally find that hard to believe that someone would just follow advice like that. I would never lower my calories to such a drastic degree. That's extremely unhealthy, and my common sense meter would be sounding the alarm.
To put this in perspective, three hundred calories is only one tiny meal per day.
I personally find that hard to believe that someone would just follow advice like that. I would never lower my calories to such a drastic degree. That's extremely unhealthy, and my common sense meter would be sounding the alarm.
To put this in perspective, three hundred calories is only one tiny meal per day.
Opposition from the Low-Carb Community
What I know is that FOR ME, eating 800 to 900 calories per day, sometimes more, and limiting my dietary fats to 60 grams per day did not affect my own health in any way.
In fact, tests that were run on me shortly after I stopped dieting revealed that I was in excellent health.
This is not to say that those who suffered ill health due to their version of Kimkins didn't do so. This is just my experience in eating to levels my body said were best for me. Cutting back to Bootcamp levels caused my weight loss to stall, so these people needed to up their fat and calories -- not lower them.
When checked, my arteries were so clean that the cardiologist was utterly amazed. My blood sugar control had normalized keeping myself dialed in to my sweet spot, so my current physician un-diagnosed me with pre-diabetes. And my organ function was so good, she couldn’t believe how healthy I was.
In fact, she solidly stood behind both me and my diet.
And yet, the low carb community continued to work very hard to convince people like me that we were going to destroy our metabolisms for the rest of our life if we did not move back to a typical low-carb diet immediately.
Despite my physicians support of my diet, I was told that I was going to injure my health, and that I was risking my life if I didn’t return to the Atkins Diet.
Despite my physicians support of my diet, I was told that I was going to injure my health, and that I was risking my life if I didn’t return to the Atkins Diet.
When I first moved back to a standard low carb, after caving into the peer pressure, I gained about 20 pounds very quickly because Atkins was too high in fat and calories.
The low carb community insisted that my weight gain meant my metabolism was healing, but that didn’t turn out to be true.
Weight gain only meant I was eating more calories and fat than I needed to maintain my current weight – nothing more.
The low carb community insisted that my weight gain meant my metabolism was healing, but that didn’t turn out to be true.
Weight gain only meant I was eating more calories and fat than I needed to maintain my current weight – nothing more.
What I Learned from Doing Kimkins
The same thing happens today every time I try to go on a typical low-carb diet. I either gain weight or just maintain.
Regardless of what the low-carb elect tend to say, if I stay within my maintenance level of calories, I can eat anything I want to – carbs included.
But if I move back to a typical low-carb diet that is high in fat and calories, I begin to gain weight very quickly.
A low-carb diet as taught within the low-carb community does not work for everyone.
Sometimes, you have to tweak it in order to get it to work.
For me, those tweaks involve lowering the level of dietary fat and calories I consume.
Where Next?
About the time I wised up and began thinking about returning to the Kimkins Diet, and not tell anyone what I was doing, one of my readers told me about Lyle McDonald and what his perspective on nutrition and diet had done for her.
So after briefly looking over what Lyle believed, I decided to leave the Kimkins Diet behind and began reading everything on the Body Recomposition website and forum.
Part 5: My First Protein-Sparing Modified Fast Experience - Dr. Eades' Thin So Fast
Hi Vickie,
ReplyDeleteI really appreciate the work you put into your blog. I too used to do Kimkins, probably at around the same time you were. I joined several months before the Woman’s World feature came out. It was the first alternative diet I tried, after trying and failing to lose weight on conventional low fat high carb diets. 15 pounds came off in the first 2 weeks, then 35 more in the next 3 ½ months. I was nearly ¾ of the way to goal and was succeeding beyond all expectations when the deception was discovered. I didn’t get involved, figuring that, while it’s true I wouldn’t have joined if I had known about the fake photos and Kimmer’s lack of experience following her own diet, I paid my $35 expecting effective weight loss and that’s what I got. Also, I was always on the general diet—no Boot Camp because I knew I couldn’t stick with that--and never suffered the side effects that others did. I learned a lot from that experience, including how important maintenance is (because the weight crept back on me) and am now losing it again on the 70’s version of Atkins, vowing not to neglect maintenance this time around.
I agree with you that people should do what works for them. You’d think low carbers would understand that because we get dumped on all the time by advocates of conventional low fat diets, but then some of us will turn around and dump on a fellow low carber who tweaked his diet because he’s not enough of a purist. I know people who have succeeded and maintained their weight loss long term on both types of diets—including the very ones I failed at, so one size definitely does not fit all.
Janina,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for your comments. I appreciate you taking the time to do that. Like you, I often do not understand low carb dieters and for that reason, I have always felt and considered myself out of the box.
Although the word "Kimkins" still finds low carbers coming unglued today, my medical test results from being on that diet were the best my physician and cardiologist had ever seen.
The irony in my own mind is how quickly some of these same individuals were to grab onto the 500 calorie hHCG diet that contains absolutely no fat (rather than just enough to make your diet work) without a blink.
But the pain of deception makes people do strange things sometimes.
Thanks again for stopping by.
Atkins diet also has its negative side effects. One simply sugar in your diet needs.
ReplyDeleteAtkins does not work for everyone, but it is not a "high" protein diet as your website claims and I am totally unaware of any negative side effects. The idea behind the Atkins Diet is to fine-tune the program to fit your own metabolic circumstances. For me, that meant less fat and lower calories. For someone else, that might mean eating totally opposite to that. Most people do not understand what the Atkins Diet is, nor how to follow it properly. There's a lot of confusion about low-carb diets out there.
ReplyDeleteI think some of the confusion may also originate from the fact that men and women need different amounts of fat -- and possibly protein too depending on the profession one chooses.
ReplyDeleteTestosterone, for example, is manufactured from saturated fat.
Low testosterone will cause weight gain, depression etc in men.
So right there you have a dynamic that is gender specific. Men following Atkins probably felt better with more fat and thus preach it to the choir.
Most men also tend to lift weights rather than use the Stairmaster, which equals higher protein needs.
And lastly the caloric needs of anyone with a blue collar job is completely different from a white collar job. Not that plenty of women don't have blue collar jobs, but a male carpenter, for example is going to have higher protein and fat needs than a woman who works a desk job.
A good case study would be to interview a woman who say, cleans hotel rooms all day versus a woman who sits behind a computer all day. The fat/caloric needs are probably fairly different.
Have you looked at the Dukan Diet. It s low carb and low fat. It also has a plan to transistion into maintence to keep the weight off and not yoyo back.
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ReplyDeleteThanks for your input. I agree. The amount of nutrients we each need are different.
katlynswoollocks,
ReplyDeleteNo. I don't know anything about the Dukan Diet. I'll check it out. Thanks.
Can look at my blog and see nutritional facts of healthy, low fat food at grocery stores.
ReplyDeleteThanks. There are a lot of people like me who need to watch the amount of fat in their low-carb diet. Appreciate you sharing that.
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